Is *** marriage the same as legal ******. Say a father and willing daughter or son being able to marry?
Discussion Corner — By NikhilBhide on January 9, 2009 at 03:15
steveo asked:
I recently had someone state to me that if you believe in equality for all, speaking of *** marriage, then you should agree with ****** between consenting adults or that makes you a bigot.
Any thoughts on this issue.
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Tags: Consenting Adults, Equality, Father Daughter, Gay Marriage, Incest, Marriage
14 Comments
It’s not bad to be ***. Homophobes want it to be bad, so they’re just trying to relate it with incest/pedophilia/etc. when everyone knows that being *** is a completely different thing from any of those.
Personally I don’t see how those two topics relate.
I think the argument is invalid. ********** relationships are between two individuals of the same gender. Nothing wrong with that.
Incest is is a relationship (usually sexual) between two individuals of close familial ties. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.
The problem with ****** is that in most recorded cases of incest, one of the individuals is to young to make a decision on the matter legally, and is often forced into the situation. There is something wrong with that.
For the sake of your question, I’ll assume you mean willing ****** between individuals who are otherwise legally able to engage in the relationship whether it is sexual or non.
If for example, a brother and sister became romantically involved with each other after they were adults, I don’t believe that it’s any of my business. I believe that they should be allowed the same chance at happiness as the rest of us.
If that brother and sister then have a child, things become a touch more complicated due to the chance of genetic defects developing. It’s a danger that they should become knowledgeable about.
Should they then be allowed to marry? I personally don’t believe in marriage. That being the case, I don’t personally see a problem with it. I’m neither the brother nor the sister in this equation and thus it doesn’t affect my life in any significant way.
All willing adults should have the same chance to improve or damage their lives as the next willing adult.
You may now attack my viewpoint.
Incest and homosexuality aren’t even closely related.
Incest can create birth defects, homosexuality prevents birth entirely.
No, it is not true.
Equality is equal rights for everyone.
And i see the main point of argument. But it’s just wrong to deny homosexuals the right to marry, and disgusting to allow family to.
In *** marriage there are two of the same gender involved. I doubt they can produce children. If they could they’d be millionaires. Plus it’s not ****** for gays to marry, unless they happened to be closely related as below, and then I doubt they’d be allowed, but that has never come up to the best of my knowledge, but it is an interesting question to put before the ones presiding over the marriage or the courts where *** marriage is allowed, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
In incest, especially a female and a male there is a high risk of children being brought into this world with birth defects. Fathers and daughters, mothers and sons, brothers and sisters, first cousins and even a risk at second cousins. Third cousins may marry.
Now not quite off the topic, but . . . if specific Mormon may marry more than one woman at a time, then why can’t all men marry more than one woman at a time? Further more, why can’t a Mormon woman have more than one husband at a time; and if so . . . why can’t all women have more than one husband at a time?
A very big difference is that there are medical-genetic consequences to incest, but no such equivalent consequences to same-sex marriage.
There is no foolproof contraception method, and pregnancy could always happen in instances of ******.
There is also a difference in that being *** or ******* would imply a general romantic orientation to males or females, just as in heterosexuality; but ****** is by nature talking about an extremely restricted gene pool. Most people, straight or gay, would not be romantically attracted *only* to their brother or sister. That is more an issue of emotional growth and leaving the nest, rather than an issue of being able to mate and be a life-partner to someone at all. The question of being able to have a life-partner at all is a basic issue of the “pursuit of happiness”.
The state has an interest in promoting stable, long-term relationships, and should support such bonds whether they are straight or ***. That encourages healthy families and discourages promiscuity, which is a double reason for the state to protect such long-term relationships.
That is worlds away from saying that every sister has the right to marry her brother.
They are definately not of the same ilk!!! ****** is never a good thing.
It won’t be too long, the way things are going, the moral decay and lack of any “moral compass”, anything no matter how perverse, will use the “minority discrimination” argument to justify anything. It’s only a matter of time. This country is so rife with apathy, they hardly notice the insidious ways these things sneak into the fabric of society.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with ****** however, ****** between straight couples is likely to produce abnormal offspring… so that’s a big problem. With *** couples, there’s nothing like that, so it’s very different.
Two different concepts.
the reason for the laws against ****** is the fact that people who are too genetically close have really messed up children born with terrific birth defects both physical and mental.
I honestly don’t give a crap what consenting adults do sexually. I really don’t.
But if you’re going to have *** with your sister PLEASE don’t have kids, THEY’RE the ones who are going to suffer, not you.
You are comparing apples to oranges here!
They are not the same thing!
And agreeing with same *** marriage does not mean you have to agree with ******!
if you believe this specious argument, then you are an insensitive fool!